Caitlyn Jenner on Ellen was AWKWARD
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Caitlyn Jenner on Ellen was AWKWARD

FILE - In this Wed., July 15, 2015 file photo, Caitlyn Jenner accepts the Arthur Ashe award for courage at the ESPY Awards at the Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said Tuesday, Aug. 25, 2015, that it was reviewing evidence submitted by investigators for a possible criminal charge against Jenner over a February crash on a coastal highway that killed a woman. There is no timetable for when prosecutors will decide whether to file or reject charges against Jenner. (Photo by Chris Pizzello/Invision/AP, File)

If you’ve been following Caitlyn Jenner’s story, and you’re familiar with Ellen DeGeneres’ career, you might have expected Jenner’s appearance on the season 13 premiere of the comedienne’s show to be nothing but warm and fuzzy.

It was not.

I’m still trying to wrap my head around this interview, in which the two discussed Jenner’s gender transition, hobbies, stance on gay marriage and dating life. The biggies, right? Well, like a lot of us, the issues, even for them, seemed difficult to discuss.

The two seemed to initially run into trouble while Caitlyn was discussing her transition, saying that she is the same person, with the same, traditionally masculine hobbies, because why would she give up all the “fun stuff.” Jenner also described the difference between sexuality and transgender as “who you go to bed with, vs. who you go to bed as.”

There is a contradiction in Jenner’s message. She is saying on one hand that your gender is who you are, your soul, and in the next breath she seems to imply gender manifests itself in one’s hobbies.

Ellen called her out on this, saying hobbies have nothing to do with one’s gender.

The next awkward moment came when Ellen perceived another contradiction when listening to Caitlyn Jenner describe her stance on gay marriage.

Caitlyn describes that she is “ok” with same sex marriage, because if the term marriage is that important to the gay and lesbian community, then who is she to stand in the way of someone’s happiness.

The statement implies that she doesn’t necessarily think that both straight and same sex couples should both use the term marriage for their commitments, even though it is the ubiquitous term for a romantic commitment between two people, whether a person is religious or not. While Jenner implies she doesn’t believe in the equality of straight and same sex couples, she herself is fighting for the equality of the transgender community.

Basically, I agree with Ellen. I found what Caitlyn had to say to be confusing, too. I understand that she is going through a transition, in her gender and her entire life, but I still think one needs to be confident in a consistent message in order to make a difference. I wouldn’t be surprised if her views on some of these issues changed moving forward.

That said, do I think Caitlyn needs to become a Democrat, and agree with everything Ellen or anyone else has to say? No, definitely not.

I appreciated listening to Bradley Traynor say today that it is cool that Caitlyn Jenner is a Republican, because it’s not what you would expect, and it means that there are all different combinations of types of people in the world.

Still, someone in the spotlight must be well-versed in the issues they are passionate about, and if they want equality, they really have to believe in it, too.


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